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*1762–1800 (this is based on the evidence below)
 
*1762–1800 (this is based on the evidence below)
**One source says he lived from 1762 to 1800<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=46Hjh6kVApQC&pg=PA208&dq=lucas+hymn+1800+1762&as_brr=1 The Story of the Tunes, 1890 (p. 208)]</ref>, and another source verifies that he was born at this date<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=M9YHIaRQTsIC&pg=PA460&dq=james+lucas+hymn&as_brr=1 The Hymns and Hymn Writers of the Church, 1911 (p. 460)]</ref>, while later Latter-day Saint sources say he was born in 1726<ref>Stories of Our Mormon Hymns, 1963 (p. 25)</ref><ref>[[Hymns of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1985]] (no. 217)</ref>.  Some sources site 1805<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=h2Kg3lC-nU4C&pg=PA399&dq=james+lucas+hymn&as_brr=1#PPA551,M1 The Methodist Hymnal, 1905 (p. 551)]</ref> and 1820<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=W4VLAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA354&dq=%22Come,+let+us+anew%22+lucas&as_brr=1#PPA456,M1 Hymnal of the Methodist Episcopal Church: With Tunes, 1878 (p. 456)]</ref><ref>[http://www.cyberhymnal.org/bio/l/u/lucas_j.htm Cyberhymnal article on James Lucas]</ref> as dates of importance to him, somehow.
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**One source says he lived from 1762 to 1800 (of England)<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=46Hjh6kVApQC&pg=PA208&dq=lucas+hymn+1800+1762&as_brr=1 The Story of the Tunes, 1890 (p. 208–209)]</ref>, and another source verifies that he was born at this date<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=M9YHIaRQTsIC&pg=PA460&dq=james+lucas+hymn&as_brr=1 The Hymns and Hymn Writers of the Church, 1911 (p. 460)]</ref>, while later Latter-day Saint sources say he was born in 1726<ref>Stories of Our Mormon Hymns, 1963 (p. 25)</ref><ref>[[Hymns of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1985]] (no. 217)</ref> and list no death date.  Some sources cite 1805<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=h2Kg3lC-nU4C&pg=PA399&dq=james+lucas+hymn&as_brr=1#PPA551,M1 The Methodist Hymnal, 1905 (p. 551)]</ref> and 1820<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=W4VLAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA354&dq=%22Come,+let+us+anew%22+lucas&as_brr=1#PPA456,M1 Hymnal of the Methodist Episcopal Church: With Tunes, 1878 (p. 456)]</ref><ref>[http://www.cyberhymnal.org/bio/l/u/lucas_j.htm Cyberhymnal article on James Lucas]</ref> as dates of importance to him, somehow (they do not say what these dates are for).
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**A particularly interesting LDS source says the following: “The tune was composed by James Lucas, of whom little is known except that he lived in England in 1726 and composed the tune called "Lucas" in 1805.”<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=WHQQJaYIebwC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Stories+of+latter+day+saint+hymns&sig=sl2qy60-tSb2IBOV1YdmgZ08gQM#PPA148,M1 Stories of Latter Day Saint Hymns Their Authors and Composers, 1939 (p. 148)]</ref>  There is doubt as to the accuracy of this statement, just as with the other information mentioned (he couldn't have written the song five years after his death; perhaps it was just first published in 1805).
  
 
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*[[Watch Night]]<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=46Hjh6kVApQC&pg=PA208&dq=lucas+hymn+1800+1762&as_brr=1#PPA208,M1 The Story of the Tunes, 1890 (p. 208–209)]</ref>
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**This may be the same tune below, as it was used with Come, Let Us Anew, although it could be a different tune and perhaps the reason the tune ''Lucas'' is thought to be composed by him.
 
*[[Lucas]]
 
*[[Lucas]]
 
**Modern sources generally say this tune is attributed to him, and not definitely his.  Loads of old hymnals list him as being the composer, however, without additional notes.
 
**Modern sources generally say this tune is attributed to him, and not definitely his.  Loads of old hymnals list him as being the composer, however, without additional notes.

Latest revision as of 18:49, 3 January 2008

Life

  • 1762–1800 (this is based on the evidence below)
    • One source says he lived from 1762 to 1800 (of England)[1], and another source verifies that he was born at this date[2], while later Latter-day Saint sources say he was born in 1726[3][4] and list no death date. Some sources cite 1805[5] and 1820[6][7] as dates of importance to him, somehow (they do not say what these dates are for).
    • A particularly interesting LDS source says the following: “The tune was composed by James Lucas, of whom little is known except that he lived in England in 1726 and composed the tune called "Lucas" in 1805.”[8] There is doubt as to the accuracy of this statement, just as with the other information mentioned (he couldn't have written the song five years after his death; perhaps it was just first published in 1805).

Works

  • Watch Night[9]
    • This may be the same tune below, as it was used with Come, Let Us Anew, although it could be a different tune and perhaps the reason the tune Lucas is thought to be composed by him.
  • Lucas
    • Modern sources generally say this tune is attributed to him, and not definitely his. Loads of old hymnals list him as being the composer, however, without additional notes.
  • Swanwick
    • It should be noted here that one source says a John Lucas wrote a tune called Swanick[10] (not Swanwick), which may or may not be the same tune.

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